Publicado por: Ingwaz en Octubre 07, 2022, 01:20:14 pm
Supongo que seguirá funcionando igual de mal a 2.
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Fuente: https://www.dicebreaker.com/games/cyclades-ii/news/cyclades-2-board-game-announced
Publicado por: Crynus en Octubre 07, 2022, 02:02:53 pm
Publicado por: Manchi en Octubre 07, 2022, 02:17:52 pm
Publicado por: Shiro_himura en Octubre 07, 2022, 03:18:26 pm
¿Simplificar? Yo diría que es un juego bastante asequible, ¿No creéis?Yo entiendo que le van hacer un cambio visual, meter alguna cosa nueva que justifique una nueva edición y listo.
Porque simplificar el juego no lo veo posible como bien dices.
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Publicado por: Rueco en Octubre 07, 2022, 04:14:46 pm
Podrían haber limpiado un poco esas minis :oYo diría que son imágenes del prototipo.
Y sí, coincido que su reglas son bastantes asequibles para todo tipo de público. Me da que quieren hacer algo como el kemet para volver a venderlo. Pero yo tan feliz con las ediciones antiguas, oiga.
Publicado por: Manchi en Octubre 07, 2022, 04:54:20 pm
Yo diría que son imágenes del prototipo.
Y sí, coincido que su reglas son bastantes asequibles para todo tipo de público. Me da que quieren hacer algo como el kemet para volver a venderlo. Pero yo tan feliz con las ediciones antiguas, oiga.
Ya, ya, parecen sacadas de impresora 3D, pero igualmente las podían haber limado un poco. A eso me refería.
Publicado por: Blackwar en Octubre 07, 2022, 05:21:49 pm
Dicho esto, yo me quedo con mi versión antigua, pero ojalá den la posibilidad de conseguir sólo las miniaturas nuevas y ver si merece la pena por precio.
Publicado por: Ingwaz en Octubre 07, 2022, 05:33:57 pm
Yo no considero que el cyclades vaya a 2 mal. De hecho tiene su propio mapa para 2 jugadores. La parte de subasta pierde un poco la gracia, pero eso sería igual a decir que también va mal a 2 el Five Tribes y tampoco es cierto
Dicho esto, yo me quedo con mi versión antigua, pero ojalá den la posibilidad de conseguir sólo las miniaturas nuevas y ver si merece la pena por precio.
A ver, igual me he expresado mal con lo de que va mal. Pero he leído mucho que no es su número óptimo ni de lejos. Que el juego está diseñado para jugarse a más jugadores y que lo de a 2 es un poco apaño. Que se puede jugar, pero no está hecho para eso. Vamos, que no merece la pena ni se recomienda pillarlo para jugar a 2. Y lo mismo con el resto de la trilogía. Tampoco Kemet ni Inis son buenos juegos para jugarlos a 2.
Pero vamos, si estoy equivocado, corregidme que me planteo entrar :)
Publicado por: Blackwar en Octubre 07, 2022, 07:21:07 pm
Publicado por: Nando89dix en Octubre 31, 2022, 10:35:55 am
No me apetece dejarme la pasta en un juego que va a darme la sensación de estar jugando a lo mismo que ya tengo.
Y no, los "dungeon crawler" no cuentan como juegos iguales (dejad que me siga engañando).
Publicado por: Blackwar en Noviembre 02, 2022, 01:38:18 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe45hucGqM0&t=1052s
te recomiendo este vídeo. gracias a él lo compré 8)
Publicado por: Shiro_himura en Noviembre 02, 2022, 09:48:01 am
Nunca tuve el Cyclades, me pica el gusanillo esta "reedición", pero debo confesar que el Blood Rage y el Age of Mythology siempre los sentí como "similares" al Cyclades y fue lo que en su momento me paró de comprarlo.El Age ni idea pero respecto al Blood Rage yo veo notables diferencias.
No me apetece dejarme la pasta en un juego que va a darme la sensación de estar jugando a lo mismo que ya tengo.
Y no, los "dungeon crawler" no cuentan como juegos iguales (dejad que me siga engañando).
Del Cyclades se habla mucho de las ostias pero para mí su motor principal y alicientes es el "sistemas de elección de acciones"
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Publicado por: Nando89dix en Noviembre 02, 2022, 11:03:33 am
Al final uno intenta pulir la estantería para no tener cinco juegos de premisas parecidas solo con el pretexto de tener una o dos mecánicas interesantes que los diferencian entre sí.
Tras verme el video del Cyclades la mecánica que me parece que hace girar al resto del juego es la de apostar. El resto desde la distancia me parece un wargame ligero con mucho control de áreas.
Esperare a que salga esta rendición, pero a priori teniendo en mi estantería el Root y el mencionado Age of Mythology, siento que el Cyclades solo me aporta la tensión ludopata de las apuestas (que es más aliciente para comprarlo del que quiero admitir)
Publicado por: Blackwar en Noviembre 03, 2022, 01:00:47 am
Publicado por: Ingwaz en Febrero 16, 2023, 04:50:43 pm
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Suscripción a la newsletter: https://open-sesame.games/cyclades-legendary-edition/#prev
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Notificación del Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/opensesamegames/cyclades-legendary-edition
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Publicado por: tylerdurden8 en Febrero 17, 2023, 09:45:26 am
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Notificación del Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/opensesamegames/cyclades-legendary-edition
Yo la anterior edición la acabé vendiendo :-\
A ver qué sale de aquí
Publicado por: Ingwaz en Febrero 17, 2023, 10:20:15 am
Yo la anterior edición la acabé vendiendo :-\
A ver qué sale de aquí
Además de la información que viene en la web del juego, he leído que han diseñado o mejorado un nuevo modo para 2 jugadores.
Eso sí, de mitología siguen sin tener ni puñetera idea, que en vez de diseñar a Medusa como una gorgona, la han diseñado como una lamia.
Publicado por: Shiro_himura en Febrero 17, 2023, 10:46:30 am
Publicado por: Ingwaz en Febrero 17, 2023, 10:51:08 am
Sentimientos encontrados la verdad, no termina de convencerme la estética/tono elegido a nivel artístico. Ya veremos el resto del contenido
A mí tampoco. El nivel de las ilustraciones está por debajo de lo puntero de hoy en día.
Publicado por: Arkhan en Febrero 18, 2023, 11:43:47 am
Publicado por: Vr en Febrero 18, 2023, 05:30:22 pm
Eso sí, de mitología siguen sin tener ni puñetera idea, que en vez de diseñar a Medusa como una gorgona, la han diseñado como una lamia.
Sí, cierto, yo estoy harto de la representación errónea de Medusa, siempre con cuerpo de serpiente.
Publicado por: Ingwaz en Febrero 18, 2023, 07:30:26 pm
Sí, cierto, yo estoy harto de la representación errónea de Medusa, siempre con cuerpo de serpiente.
Bueno y también han vuelto a meter al Kraken que es de la mitología nórdica, en vez de a Cetus, que es a quien entregaron a Andrómeda. La peli de Clash of Titans, que jodió para siempre los mitos originales en la cultura popular.
Publicado por: tylerdurden8 en Febrero 19, 2023, 03:33:43 pm
A mí tampoco. El nivel de las ilustraciones está por debajo de lo puntero de hoy en día.
Totalmente...
Publicado por: Warxky en Febrero 22, 2023, 12:29:25 pm
(FAQ al final)
On February 16th, Open Sesame Games announced the upcoming launch of CYCLADES LEGENDARY EDITION, on Kickstarter Q2 2023.
With Ludovic Maublanc, we relayed the information on our networks, and, of course, it generated a lot of legitimate questions. So it’s time for me to explain what this project contains / doesn’t contain. So that everyone knows if it’s for them or not!
First of all, what was Cyclades
Cyclades was released in 2009. Many of you clearly know what it is. With the boardgame world growing a lot since then, many players might not know what this game is about. Let’s summarize:
Cyclades is about Ancient Greece major cities struggling to prove their supremacy (and to be the first to own two metropolises). To obtain these famous metropolises, three ways are possible:
– Economic development (owning port + fortress + temple + university earns a metropolis)
– Cultural development (owning 4 philosophers earn a metropolis)
– Military conquest (you can take over the opponent’s metropolises through combat)
Cyclades’ DNA comes from its clever bidding system:
Necessary actions to develop your city are linked to the 5 gods, each one being specialized in its field. (Poseidon > Maritime, Ares > military, Zeus > religion, Athena > Culture, Apollo > the poor man’s god)
In order to obtain the favors of a God, it is necessary to make offerings.
Ensuring a specific god’s favors requires that you are the highest bidder. But as the intensity with which you can use it depends on the amount of gold you have left, you will have to make decisive choices.
Cyclades, under its false appearance of « ancient Risk », is in fact a game of management / development / control, always hyper tense, in which Gold is the key!
The game was a real success which allowed us to keep developing its universe, through various expansions:
Cyclades HADES in 2011, which contained several modules:
– a free placement start
– a new God, Hades (with his armies of undead)
– the arrival of the legendary Heroes
– the emergence of divine favors
Cyclades Titans in 2014; with again several modules:
– A new board, with islands composed of several territories
– A 6th player
– the possibility to play in teams
– A new God, Kronos, accompanied by his Titans
– Specialized metropolises
– Divine artifacts offering a new way to victory
Cyclades Monuments in 2016:
A » mini-expansion » with mythical monuments, materialized by 3D miniatures
In summary, from 2009 to 2016, we had the opportunity to develop a whole universe around Cyclades.
A universe that we wanted to be modular. Each group of players being free to choose, before each game, if that night, they wanted to play with Hades + Heroes, or 6 in teams of 2 players, with artifacts and Monuments or… in short… lots of possibilities.
As time went by Ludo & I felt an intense desire to propose a new vision of Cyclades.
A sort of « designer’s cut », that is to say, keeping only the ones we liked the most from the modules described above.
And then finally, from reflection to reflection, with a desire to make the game as dynamic as possible for the most intense gaming experience, we ended up interweaving our desires and changes so much that we ended up with something that is… another game. Another Cyclades, which is so much more suited to our actual preferences. And of course, all this while maintaining the original Cyclades’ DNA. And that’s how :
Cyclades Legendary Edition :
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First of all, what has been kept?
Well… all primary Cyclades’ DNA, of course, with its bidding system on the Gods. And as always, the fight for the control of gold that will allow you to make the actions that will lead you to victory.
Everything has been re-illustrated by Miguel Coimbra’s brushes. This also contributes to keeping the game’s precious identity..
But many things have changed / evolved
– Modular boards
The game surface is now composed of tiles fitting into each other, in a totally free and modular way, which will create, according to the assemblies, archipelagos of variable surface islands, composed of one or more territories. In each game, it will be necessary to know how to exploit the specificities of the unique topography to your advantage.
In summary:
> Increased replayability
> Easier to set up
– Basic Gods reviewed
Since the beginning of the game, each God has given access to automatic and free benefits, and others that must be paid in addition to the initial offering.
In the original Cyclades, you had to pay to get the buildings and earn the Metropolises.
We realized that in some games, players never paid for these buildings. They preferred to wait for others to build their metropolises, while they accumulated their gold. In order to launch a single military expedition to win in a single turn by stealing the opponent’s metropolises.
While this tactic is perfectly legit, it could lead to games where no players created buildings in the end, resulting in games that would last a good couple hours.
As a result, in Cyclades Legendary Edition, the automatic and free effect of the gods is the construction of buildings. This results in Metropolises appearing on the board much, much faster. It makes the game more dynamic.
But now, you’ll have to control 3 of them to win!
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– Metropolises with specific gain
Each Metropolis you build will give you a nice little bonus (a priestess, or some soldiers, or ships, or gold…). This contributes a little more to the desire to build them without waiting.
Even better: if someone steals a metropolis from you, you will « leave with the loot », i.e. benefit from this metropolis’ bonus again before losing it.
– A new God HERA
We have sorted out the Gods, and the way to manage their arrival.
I won’t go into detail here, but we found a way to manage them that has the advantage of working identically, no matter if you play with 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 players.
Simplification, whenever possible, is the key!
Tough we have kept, of course, Poseidon, Ares, Zeus Athena and Apollo, we have added a new one: HERA
HERA, replaces for us what we liked in Hades and Kronos.
The idea, the desire, is to have the possibility to move troops even when you don’t have access to Ares. Always this desire for dynamism.
Hades, with its troops of ephemeral living dead, allowed this, but once every 3, 4 or 5 turns, depending on the dice results. Fun but random.
Kronos, allowed to have titans leading troops to battle. Particularly interesting when the islands are composed of several territories.
Hera allows :
– To recruit mercenary troops (unlike the undead, they do not disappear at the end of the game turn)
– To recruit a Hero… and these Heroes will allow you, at each turn, in a logical way, to take the troops that accompany them to the battle (except if you are on Appolon).
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– Heroes review
Of course there are more heroes than in the original Cyclades, but their effects and use have been reworked. As we have just seen, they don’t arrive randomly, mixed in with the pile of mythological creatures. You’ll have to get Hera’s favor… and have the necessary Gold (4 Gold) to recruit them.
In exchange, they will :
– Allows you to take your troops into battle each turn, with a specific military bonus for each hero
– Each of them will benefit from a unique sacrificial power, allowing them, when the conditions are met, to earn a Metropolis.
Thus Heroes are now a 4th strategic axis to gain Metropolises, synonymous with victory!
– Creature Review:
Also here, we will find some of the creatures that make Cyclades’ DNA. But some new ones will be discovered. And above all, the beautiful creatures with miniatures will be able to influence the board for longer periods of time.
Previously, it was basically a short round, then gone.
Now, each turn, it will be possible to sacrifice a priestess to keep the creature dear to your heart (and more importantly to your strategy) a while longer.
– Preservation of the team mode
With 4 players we will have the possibility to play individually or in teams of two players.
With 6 players, we will have to play in teams of two players.
In teams, we play side by side, sharing only one screen for two, where you hide your common gold.
Each one has his priestess, philosophers, heroes, creatures, as individuals.
But gold is common. Teammates will have to agree on how to spend it.
Buildings are also shared (If I have port + fortress and my partner has the two complementary buildings, I make a Metropolis)
The game becomes cooperative within the team, and competitive, between teams. We love it.
– Two player game completely revised
The two player game was the poor parent of the first Cyclades edition.
Not because it didn’t work. But the game was usually best conceded if a major advantage was gained by one of the two players. The final result was not in doubt, but probably required another 30 minutes of play.
With two players, now, it’s basically like playing as a team.
Each player controls the destiny of two cities, with a central screen behind which they manage the gold of their two cities.
Each city / color has its priestess, philosophers, heroes, creatures, but the gold is shared.
The two player game is certainly a bit more technical than before, but at the same time, it is quite adapted to the target audience of this game. But most of all it is more intense and suitable for turnarounds.
So… Now you have a fairly complete picture of what Cyclades Legendary Edition is all about. Which allows me to answer to the following questions:
– Will there ever be a pack to upgrade my initial Cyclades?
NO
If you check all the changes, it clearly appears that the changes are too many, too deep, for any backwards compatibility.
– When will the KS be launched?
At last information, the launch should take place in Q2 2023 for a delivery in 2024
– Will there be a version available in stores?
YES
And this version will contain all the gameplay elements that will have been unlocked during the KS campaign
Indeed, it is essential to us that everyone can have the same gameplay elements.
Consequently, the « KS exclusive » elements will only touch « qualitative improvements of the material », but not the elements that give rules.
However, regarding the store version :
– this is still but quite likely that it will be a « basic box » + « extension » form, in order to have a price compatible with the market.
– This store version will be available only after the bakers have been delivered. Personally, I had a very bad experience with the fact that the Cleopatra and the architect’s society bakers have been delivered after the game arrived in stores. I have no desire to see that happen again. It is imperative that we focus on those who will support us and help bring this project to life.
Will there be a single player mode?
NO
And here, it’s clearly a wish of mine. Indeed, I am not at all hostile to the idea of a game having a single player mode. But for my games, that mode can only exist if it meets 3 requirements:
– Not to turn the game into a « gas factory » with a tree structure if…. then… but if… then … etc etc
– Offer a game experience that remains consistent / analogous / close to the original game
– You must be able to lose against the game (I hate solo modes that only lead to a high score attempt. I must feel the potential breath of defeat)
As mentioned above, Cyclades is primarily a bidding game. It would have been perfectly possible to offer a single player mode using the Cyclades material, but without recreating the game experience that is so important to us. So even when the single-player mode’s big specialist offered his services, I preferred to say no, with no regrets, even if I clearly know that this will prevent some people from pledging.
Publicado por: GPDMG en Febrero 24, 2023, 12:18:54 pm
Este me llama, que no lo tengo...
Publicado por: Shiro_himura en Febrero 24, 2023, 01:20:09 pm
Ellos mismos hablan de que será otro juego más dinámico e intenso. Solo se mantiene el sistema de apuesta de los dioses y la lucha por el control del oro, añadiéndose:
- -Tablero modular que permitirá crear escenarios diferentes cada partida
- -La construcción de edificios ahora es efecto automático y gratuito de los dioses
- -Para ganar es necesario pasar a controlar 3 de ellos.
- -Las metrópolis ahora dan una pequeña bonificación al construirlas y de nuevo si te la roban.
- -Añadido como nuevo dios Hera que es una fusión de Kronos y Hades.
- -Nuevos héroes, ahora no salen con las criaturas aleatoriamente si no que se reclutan con Hera (4 de oro) y si se sacrifican podrás ganar una metrópolis si cumples condiciones
- -Criaturas pueden aguantar más turnos si sacrificas sacerdotisas.
- -Modos de juego a 4 jugadores: Invidual o 2 equipos
- -Modo de juego a 6 jugadores: Solo 3 equipos
- -Modo de juego a 2 jugadores: Completamente revisado, cada jugador jugará como un equipo
- -No tendrá modo solitario
FAQ
- No habrá paquete de actualizacion
- Lanzamiento del KS 2º trimestre de 2023 para entrega en 2024
- Si habrá versión para tiendas y esta versión contendrá todos los elementos de juego que se habrán desbloqueado durante la campaña de KS.
- Los elementos «exclusivos de KS» sólo tocarán «mejoras cualitativas del material», pero no los elementos que dan reglas.
- La versión tiendas seguramente sea Caja básica + Expansión
Como anécdota el dios de los solitarios se ofreció hacer dicho modo pero se le dijo que no.
Publicado por: Ingwaz en Febrero 24, 2023, 09:13:39 pm
Publicado por: Ingwaz en Marzo 03, 2023, 05:18:22 pm
Corto del proto: https://youtube.com/shorts/BF6grGV1GK8
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Publicado por: Arkhan en Marzo 05, 2023, 02:18:27 am
¿Os suena el nuevo modo 2 jugadores lo suficientemente prometedor como para hacerse con el juego sólo para jugarlo a 2?
A bote pronto, sigue siendo un apaño, osea, cómo jugar 2vs2 pero siendo 1vs1... :/
Publicado por: Warxky en Junio 07, 2023, 11:39:00 pm
29 de Junio
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Publicado por: Regulus en Junio 12, 2023, 11:27:28 pm
Porque si no la verdad que suena a lavado de cara y poco más, que no digo que les funcionará... Pero...
Publicado por: Manchi en Junio 12, 2023, 11:40:29 pm
Estrategia de Marketing: pongo Legendary, Big Box, Deluxe o Megaguay en el nombre, le pongo brilli brilli y cobro de lo que cuesta el juego normal.
Resultado: Lanzamiento de cartera a la pantalla.
Publicado por: Juanki86 en Junio 21, 2023, 10:03:03 pm
Alguno ya lo decía arriba, a ver si compensa la bigbox con nuevas mecánicas y cosas nuevas que traiga más que el actual base + expansiones.
Alguien sabe si la promo de HECATE actual, valdría para el futuro kickstarter? Por si decido entrar y vendo todo lo que tengo ahora, quedarme la promo esa o igual viene también o igual no vale de nada porque no podrá acoplarse al nuevo.
A ver si alguien tuviera algo de info al respecto.
Gracias! :)
Publicado por: UtenaDark en Junio 22, 2023, 12:54:40 pm
Habrá solo Big Box y upgrade?
Enviado desde el Valhalla
Publicado por: Kibbu en Junio 23, 2023, 08:19:01 am
Lo que me falta por ver es si entro al Kickstarter, cosa que dudo mucho, o lo pillo entienda (lo más seguro).
Publicado por: negroscuro en Junio 29, 2023, 12:52:05 pm
A ver cuanto canta esta Legendary Edition y si compensa/mejora al actual Cyclades + Expansiones, ya que no va a haber Kit de conversión.
Yo ando igual, tengo el base mas hades y a ver que proponen, precio y cambios. No se si rentará la inversión. Que se sabe? que me acabo de poner con este tema y ando perdido.