Descripción: Un uno contra todos al más puro estilo de película de horror.

Empresa editora / Autores: Ice Makes

Enlace: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/terrorscape/terrorscape-the-immersive-horror-boardgame-for-2-4-players?ref=discovery_category_newest

Dinero necesario para financiarse: HK$ 156,000

Fecha de finalización: 21 de mayo de 2023 4:00 UTC +00:00

Fecha estimada de entrega: Nov 2023

Idioma del juego: Inglés y un montón de idiomas, pero no Español.

Pledge Levels (Niveles de aportación): 585HK$ - 1.006HK$ - 1.084HK$ - 1.942HK$

Aduanas y gastos de envío: EUFriendly. 23-41$

Stretch goals (Desbloqueos): cartas y mejoras

Fotos del juego:

Es una pena lo del español, porque tiene buenas ilustraciones temática muy explotada pero interesante, una casa en 3D de cartón...
Y lo están petando (España solo con 20 mecenitas de nada).

Cita de: Fardelejo en Abril 04, 2023, 10:30:43 PM
Es una pena lo del español, porque tiene buenas ilustraciones temática muy explotada pero interesante, una casa en 3D de cartón...
Y lo están petando (España solo con 20 mecenitas de nada).

Hombre.. es que es una falta de respeto, sacarlo en polaco, italiano, frances y aleman antes que en español... no se muchos me parecen 20 si te soy sincero yo entiendo bien ingles y lo hablo, pero no me sale de los.. comprar un juego traducido a esos idiomas antes que al español, si solo esta en ingles perfecto, o en ingles y en el idioma nativo del/los creadores, pero si metes varios idiomas menores en comparación pues yo no pago. (aun no entiendo bien el odio que se le tiene a traducir las cosas a español, pero tambien pasa mucho con videojuegos)

PD: Yo voy a meter presion agresiva a que tengan que decir algo respecto al español, es bastante humillante que no este.

Suele ser por el bajo volumen de ventas, pero en este caso no tiene sentido ya que la mayor parte de las campañas estamos a la par de franceses e italianos.

Aunque quizás todo esto sea porque no hay editoras españolas que se arriesguen, no será la primera campaña que se queja de eso, en otros países es más fácil editar en idioma por acuerdos con editoras locales. Aquí es bastante normal que ninguna se moje.

Yo este me lo estoy pensando con bastantes posibilidades de entrar.

El estilo artístico me encanta, el tema me encanta, sólo tengo que ver cómo funciona a 2.

Ojalá hubiese solitario. No he podido mirarlo detenidamente porque llevo varios días fuera. Lo tenía en seguimiento en la BGG y ni me había dado cuenta que ya estaba en marcha.

Me mola la idea de que uno sea un asesino y los otros tres sean supervivientes. No suelo entrar en juegos que no tengan solitario, pero en este caso me lo están poniendo difícil.

Buenas, pasaros por el canal de Jugar y Pintar en Youtube, tiene proto y vídeos interesantes

Hi @Eskizofrenia,

We do not plan to have a Spanish edition at this moment. However, we keep talking with many publishers in different regions. Let's share this campaign with your community to show the potential of Terrorscape to the publishers!

Zoe

Cita de: Eskizofrenia en Abril 06, 2023, 09:41:13 AM
Hi @Eskizofrenia,

We do not plan to have a Spanish edition at this moment. However, we keep talking with many publishers in different regions. Let's share this campaign with your community to show the potential of Terrorscape to the publishers!

Zoe

Lo que he comentado, que las editoras españolas no se han mojado aún.

Cita de: Fardelejo en Abril 06, 2023, 09:59:49 AM
Lo que he comentado, que las editoras españolas no se han mojado aún.

Joer tio que rabia por una parte lo de que no este en español me mata y por otra si consiguiera superar eso en mi grupo lo de siempre la mitad no saben ingles, y aunque es ingles facil y tal pero si tienes que estar traduciendo cada carta pues no merece la pena..

Estoy dudando...¿Lo pillaríais sólo para 2?

¿Crees que funcionaría bien para 2? Y otra cosa, el core solo no se queda corto?

Pues yo aun estando muy de acuerdo con lo del idioma, me he metido de lleno...... me flipa la tematica y es muy vistoso para jugadores novatos que no quieren que les saque juegos de 3 horas de duracion cada vez que vienen.
A dos imagino que funcionara perfectamente ademas.
El ingles ademas es muy basico y tiene poco texto asi que no sera un problema para mi.

Sí, yo también lo tengo en seguimiento. Me haré con él tarde o temprano. Si no es ahora, en el PM o cuando lo tengan en su tienda online.

Además, varios backers que han probado el proto dicen que a 2 funciona muy bien. Manejar 3 supervivientes no es nada complicado, no crea AP, y hace que las partidas sean más rápidas y más cerebrales. El que juega de asesino no se siente marginado ni te oye las jugadas que planearían varios supervivientes.

Cambios que han implementado después de mucho testeo y que no están en la versión TTS:

1. Card Drawing Rules of the Killer

The old version in the samples:

The Killer draw 2 cards at the beginning of their turn, and draw 1 more card if they don't find a Survivor at the end of the turn. If they find the Survivor(s) and at least one Survivor defends successfully, the Killer will be enraged and draw 4 extra cards.

The new version:

The Killer won't draw cards at the beginning of their turn. They ALWAYS draw 3 cards at the end of the turn. When a Survivor defends successfully, the Killer will discard 2 extra cards from the deck, to speed up their level up.

Reason for the changes:

There are two main reasons behind this modification. The first would be to simplify the turn structure of the Killer. The original design was meant to perfectly balance the situation between two sides- A killer draws 3 cards if they failed to find someone (they have no progress on the main objective), draws 2 cards if they hit someone (draw less because they gain a great process, and we have to give a little benefit to the Survivors), and draw 6 cards if they found someone but couldn't damage them. (Draw the most cards as the Survivors are using defend strategy and the Killer has to level up to counter it) The concept sounds quite complicated but as far as we tested the game, it works very well. However, we also found that the structure is a little bit clumsy and may confuse some players. Therefore, simplifying it might be a good direction.

Then we come to the downtime. No one likes long downtime. And by changing the timing of draw cards to the end of the turn, the Killer can read all the cards and plan for the next turn at the Survivor's turn. And act quickly at their turn.

For these two reasons, we started to develop the new structure and sacrifice a tiny portion of balancing. We and our playtesters found that the new version is more streamlined and the balance is still decent.

2. Big Changes on the Butcher

We envision the Butcher as the simplest Killer for beginners to start with while he can be still powerful, unique, and fun to play. But in the old version, he was just simple and powerful. The characteristic and replayability are not enough, at least for me, and for some playtesters. We really want the Butcher as a fun Killer for both beginners and experienced players, so the reworks began.

Reviving Chainsaw


From "FAST: +2 strength this turn, and Fear within 1 range" to "SPECIAL: Fear within 1 range, Move x0-1, and damage all survivors at current location"

The chainsaw is the signature of the Butcher. The old version chainsaw just doesn't have enough presence on the table. The new version is a little bit harder to use, but could directly damage a group of Survivors if they dare to stay near you. It greatly enhances the powerful and reckless image of the Butcher.

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The other big characteristic of the Butcher is the ability to block doors. As to strengthen his uniqueness, we boost his blocking ability and further reduce his speed and searching ability.

Madness and STAYYYY!


Madness

From "SPECIAL: Move x1, Search, Move x1, Search" to "FAST: Block x1, +2 strength this turn"

STAYYYY!

From "FAST: Block x1-2" to "SLOW: Block all doors in your location"

The new version of "STAYYYY!" is a 4-cost card and the ability is very crazy! What we love is it's very simple to use, but only experienced players can use it at the perfect moment and location to unleash its full potential. The new card "Madness" is kind of a hybrid of the old version "STAYYYY!" and the temporary +2  strength of the old version "Reviving Chainsaw".

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We need a highlight moment, a dramatic turning point for the Butcher! Something like the "Life Drain" of the Spectre and "Death Blossom"(previously named Swift Slaughter) of the Murderer. So now we have the new "Brutal Rage" of the Butcher that can perfectly represent his rage.


Brutal Rage

From "FAST: +1 strength this turn, Move x1, Search" to "Move x1-2, Search (If no survivors were found AND a block token was removed, repeat this.)"

With the new ultimate skill, the Butcher is able to search up to 8 locations in one turn! It is a very powerful addition to the 6-8 strength killer but it requires setup of the blocking network in the first half of the game. Moreover, the card will sacrifice multiple blocks and free the ways for the Survivors. In the playtests, we found that the new "Brutal Rage" becomes one of the favourite cards of players, and provides outstanding strategy depth.

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We also modified the Level 4 ability of the Butcher! (Yes, +1 Strength in end-game stages is not satisfying)


3. Small changes on the Spectre and the Murderer

The changes for the Spectre and the Murderer are small. The strength of the Spectre is reduced to 2 as we want to further suppress the threat of her normal attack.

Regarding our ambush master, the Murderer, his "Stalk" (previously named Surveillance) is upgraded to a hybrid card. Now it can be used as a +1 strength attack card as well. We also adjusted his Level 4 ability and the composition of his deck. The new Murderer is now a bit more dangerous in the early game if the player could manage the cards on hand well, and the "Stalk" is no longer always the first option to discard.


The above changes are not all! We have also changed a couple of things in the base game including item card balance, wordings and the quality of components. We believe Terrorscape will be much more awesome than the sample version! And with the unlocked and upcoming stretch goals, it can be upgraded to a whole new level of game experience. I would like to take this opportunity to give a big thank you to all playtesters, reviewers and backers. Your feedback and support, are significant to the development of Terrorscape!